Diamond recalled a negotiation he oversaw between the Colombia government and military, and a terrorist group. “I remember meeting them in the Pentagon at their request. The chief military officer of Colombia piped up and said to the terrorists, ‘They have to give back their weapons’. I said, ‘No, they don’t. Lunch first, weapons later’. And, it turns, out when they had lunch, it wasn’t about weapons at all,” he said. The rebel group was willing to give back their weapons and they instead wanted a protection programme, jobs and a political party. “So, until they discovered who each other were, there was no deal possible,” he said, adding that it is a “dumb idea” for India and Pakistan to not have many talks between them. “You got to find out who each other is. You got to find out if there are some perceptions that you haven’t accounted for.”